Recorded September 14, 2023

Marti asks Jon about his background and his project at Uplift Kids and the Spiritual Parenting Podcast. His team aims to give parents resources for an expansive approach to spirituality. Which means they develop curriculum based on wisdom traditions around the word and scientific research.

Uplift Kids Website:

Spiritual Parenting Podcast:

Thomas McConkie and Terryl Givens:

Awakening From the Meaning Crisis:

Brian D. McLaren: Faith After Doubt: Why Your Beliefs Stopped Working and What to Do About It


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